Trying to Please Everyone: Or Converting multiple Pop Culture Utopias into a Timeline.

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Marco Incognito said:
Super Mario: 2D Era(1985-1995)
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Home Release of the Original Popeye Arcade Game
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An Original Popeye Arcade Machine
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Nintendo had bought the publishing rights to Popeye in Japan. Shigeru Mayamoto pitched the idea of King Features Syndicate to create a video game which involved Bluto throwing barrels down at Popeye as he tried to save Olive Oyl. The resulting game was a hit and quickly became iconic, though there would be drama in the high score community as discussed in the documentary "The King of Pop" which covers the story of notorious cheater Billy Mitchell being dethroned by Steve Weibe to become the Popeye World Champion, and leading into Mitchell's downward spiral as his scores were removed from official lists and he was blacklisted from Twin Galaxies and Guiness Book of Records. Many even made jokes about Mitchell looking a lot like Popeye antagonist Bluto.

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Mario with the Bazooka and the Bill Blaster powerups​

Super Mario Bros-1985
After the success of the licensed game Popeye, Miyamoto expressed a desire to create original characters and was given more free range to do so following Popeye's 1981 success. The game he had in mind featured a character originally called Jumpman but quickly became named Mario instead. Mario wanted his hero to fire bullets(OTL this was changed to fireball). With the set up the A button shots while the B button runs and the control pad moves, including making the Up button jump. This allows Mario to run and shoot throughout the game. The game also allows the player to run and shoot at the same time. level difficult was spiked up to compete with these new mechanics. Power ups include a rifle, a beam gun and a kicking move. Mario also flies on a rocket on a stage and then a cloud. The game then added Mario's brother Luigi as the second player.The Gameplay makes it similar to Contra, which it predates by 2 years.

Super Mario Bros 2-1988.
There was a demand for a sequel. Super Marios Bros 2 was released despite concerns that the game was too similar and too complex. A plan to make a clone of Doki Doki Panic was dropped, though that game still saw a western release.

Super Mario Bros 3-1988
The NES ROMs included a massive amount of levels. The game also received a DOS port by id Software(butterflying away Commander Keen for the time being). The game also introduces Yoshi and has a password system to load games.

Super Mario Bros 4-1990
Super Mario Bros 4(OTL's Super Mario World) was a launch title for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System and a test to see if the team behind Super Mario Bros 3 could translate well onto the new system. A blue Sparrow appears in the game, flying around Mario. Toad also appears in the game(OTL the game is the only Mario platformer he is absent from). Toad House is also present. The player also dismounts Yoshi(butterflying away the joke of causing his death) at certain areas indicated by signs. Three Koopalings are present on the Overworld map and pulled Mario into stages. Other sprites from Super Mario Bros 3 transferred over to 4 such as the Piranha Plant, Venus Fire Trap and Racoon Mario.Wiggler is green and resembles a spiked caterpillar, removing his anger feature. The game features 8 worlds and 2 Secret Worlds: Yoshi's Island, Donut Plains, Vanilla Dome, Butter Bridge, Forrest of Illusion, Chocolate Island, Salty Sea, and Bowser Castle. The Secret Worlds are Star Road and Special Zone. This is the first game in which Princess Peach is playable after being rescued.

Donkey Kong-1991
Outside of Mario, Miyamoto introduced a new character In Donkey Kong. Donkey Kong(akin to Donkey Kong Country in gameplay) was released, featuring Donkey Kong trying to recover his banana horde from the Pirate King K.Rool on an island. It was followed by a sequel.

Return of Donkey Kong-1992
The sequel was, of all things, a musical, having Kong battle through musical numbers, including one performed by his girlfriend Pauline, who is a singer(seen as a counter to Sonic's Madonna). Several scenes in the game take place in a large New York Style City, helping to justify the broadway style musical set up, like Super Mario Bros 3, there is speculation by fans that the entire game is a play, in this case, Kong has been brought to the City in a parallel to the original King Kong story.

Mario Kart-1992
The Original Mario Kart featured 8 characters, compared to OTL Donkey Kong Jr has been swapped out with Donkey Kong and Koopa Troopa with King K.Rool.

Donkey Kong 1994
Often abbreviated as Donkey Kong '94, considered the best of the series, later getting remade as Donkey Kong Plus with GBA-GCN connectivity.

After a deal between Nintendo and Philips CD-i fell through, many games that would have been made for the Phillips CD-i with Nintendo characters were repurposed into original properties, such as Hotel Havoc, Faces of Evil, Wand of Gamalon, and others. The sub par reception of these games led to the cancellation of plans with Nintendo such as the planned Mario Takes America. Demos of which exist, along with a game for the cancelled Virtua Boy called Mario Clash.
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Since Super Mario Bros. is a shooter game ITTL, will the iconic power-ups (Super Mushroom, Fire/Ice Flowers, Invincibility Star, Raccoon Leaf etc.) still appear some way ITTL?
 
Marco Incognito

Marco Incognito

SomeBritNamedThom said:
Since Super Mario Bros. is a shooter game ITTL, will the iconic power-ups (Super Mushroom, Fire/Ice Flowers, Invincibility Star, Raccoon Leaf etc.) still appear some way ITTL?
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They still appear with the exception of Fire Flowers and Ice Flowers since the original Fire flower was made to replace the gun. The Ice Flower is likely a freeze gun instead.
 

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Marco Incognito said:
They still appear with the exception of Fire Flowers and Ice Flowers since the original Fire flower was made to replace the gun. The Ice Flower is likely a freeze gun instead.
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Maybe, the closest thing we could get to a Fire Flower is a flamethrower?
 
Marco Incognito

Marco Incognito

SomeBritNamedThom said:
Maybe, the closest thing we could get to a Fire Flower is a flamethrower?
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The Fireflower in Smash Bros arguably works that way. The thing about the Fire Flower is it doesn't quite simulate Fire in the first games, so the introduction of a power up that's fire themed would either work at a flamethrower in that its a stream or it sets the enemy on fire similar to the ice flower freezing them.
 
TheDetailer

TheDetailer

A list of the alternate US Presidents list ITTL with party colors provided. Red is for Republican, Blue is for Democratic, and Gray is for Independent.
William McKinley (1897-1901*)
Theodore Roosevelt (1901-1909)
William Howard Taft (1909-1913)
Theodore Roosevelt (1913-1919*)
Charles Evans Hughes (1919-1921)
James Cox (1921-1929)
Herbert Hoover (1929-1933)
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1933-1945*)
Harry Truman (1945-1957)
Dwight D. Eisenhower (1957-1963*)
Richard Nixon (1963-1969)
John F. Kennedy (1969-1977)
Ronald Reagan (1977-1981)
John Glenn (1981-1989)
Joseph Biden (1989-1993)
George H. W. Bush (1993-2001)
Al Gore (2001-2009)
John McCain (2009-2013)
Barrack Obama (2013-2021)
Hillary Clinton (2021-)
 
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Marco Incognito

Marco Incognito

TheDetailer said:
A list of the alternate US Presidents list ITTL with party colors provided. Red is for Republican, Blue is for Democratic, and Gray is for Independent.
William McKinley (1897-1901*)
Theodore Roosevelt (1901-1919*)
Charles Evans Hughes (1919-1921)
James Cox (1921-1929)
Herbert Hoover (1929-1933)
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1933-1945*)
Harry Truman (1945-1957)
Dwight D. Eisenhower (1957-1963*)
Richard Nixon (1963-1969)
John F. Kennedy (1969-1977)
Ronald Reagan (1977-1981)
John Glenn (1981-1989)
Joseph Biden (1989-1993)
George H. W. Bush (1993-2001)
Al Gore (2001-2009)
John McCain (2009-2013)
Barrack Obama (2013-2021)
Hillary Clinton (2021-)
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Taft split up the two sets of Roosevelt terms.
 
TheDetailer

TheDetailer

Okay, this might be the biggest question so far, so I won't be surprised if you keep many details vague or left out until later on for future updates, but what are TTL's Interwar period and World War II like? How much is changed from OTL? How many significant events go differently ITTL?
 

King Krazy

Since TheDetailer seems to be taking this thread off-topic, I'm going to try and steer things back on course.

I suggest you kill "Riverdale". I've seen a LOT of crappy television, but that show is the worst of them all.
 

King Krazy

What I mean is that some of your posts don't seem to be very pop-culture centered. If they were meant as such and I was simply reading them wrong, I apologize.
 
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