If we would see any syncretism of swords it'd be between sabres and katana, which are both single edged blades.
Maybe we could see a Japanese style focused on one handed snipes to catch your opponent off-guard.
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Maybe we could see a Japanese style focused on one handed snipes to catch your opponent off-guard.
In general, OTL Azuchi-Muromachi, many artists followed an extremely Europeanized path.
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A big distinction from OTL is that Ming and Joseonite exports never experience a downturn like they did in OTL due to the Imjin War and the Qing invasions so in that sense Japanese ware has to become more distinct to remain competitive.
I think @Quinkana is onto something with the sword syncretism though it will ultimately depend on the evolution of Japanese combat techniques in war especially as a realm of islands rather than a continental nation. In terms of music, I'm sure there will be interest like the Japanese are with everything else but it's too early to predict how much.
True tho through more of a Christian-influenced lens. I may have to revise the yoga section of the chapter tho, I kinda forgot about this. Thanks for bringing this up!!In general, OTL Azuchi-Muromachi, many artists followed an extremely Europeanized path.
The capitalistic tendencies of TTL's Japan can also make their samurai class less execution-happy; that will factor in how they would have combatted for sports, and how intensely so. After all, they're much more busy ITTL with their mercantilistic and developmental endeavours (thanks to imported technology) to spend as much time in academics and martial arts. It may as well make for much less appreciation for death, which will likewise help assuage them from duelling to death, or from creating 47 Rōnin scenarios.
Speaking of executions, do the samurai of TTL still have the right to justify their killing of commoners ex post facto as they did IOTL?
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Considering the circumstances of the different asian states that makes a lot of sense.
Yeah I defo could see it happening especially as different schools retain different aspects of traditional Japanese martial arts. I just think it's very likely for a school or two to pop up who incorporates sabre techniques into their fighting style. Its popularity would be more focused on if they train famous people or not though...
Maybe we see a few mixed-schools in the southern Japan and Beiritou, where ideas are more liable to mix and evolve.
On the topic of music other than importing Western music I think Japanese music would move into a symphonic context instead of the chamber music that traditional Japanese music focuses on, with the complexity of music coming from the different notes the different instruments are playing.
Instead of swords and metal armour - considering that this is already the age of flintlock muskets - the different Japanese daimyos (unlike Europe with its cold climate, colonial underdevelopment and mercantilistic brinksmanship) can leverage the peace to engender cotton production for military production; while they may have done it for capitalisation at first - once a cotton-producing daimyo gets either mobilised or outright embroiled in warfare - they'll have the resources needed to mass produce Myeonje Baegab once they get that idea.
The same feat can also supposedly be done with six folds of silk.
Speaking of economics though - doesn't the different samurai clans' experience with ji-shoukai and their resulting economic specialisation make them more comfortable with undertaking more advanced economic and financial concepts like deficit spending?
The same feat can also supposedly be done with six folds of silk.
Speaking of economics though - doesn't the different samurai clans' experience with ji-shoukai and their resulting economic specialisation make them more comfortable with undertaking more advanced economic and financial concepts like deficit spending?
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I see bulletproof armour being made from whatever they could get their hands on, and I do think the fact that iron is relatively expensive in Japan means bulletproof gambeson probably would have a lot more incentives to evolve than in other regions. Ofc I think helmets would still be used, but wearing a bulletproof vest would prevent a lot of mortalities.
The problem with using silk is that it'll be a lot more expensive, and when making gambeson like this I think quantity is a quality all of its own. I would expect silk version being made and being hid under traditional Japanese clothing tho.
I do think the samurai would do advanced economic and financial concepts like deficit spending if only bc they have to chase the merchants in learning how to trade and the such.
It's still too early for that; aside from the Japanese and French architecture being different enough to affect the reverberations that the musicians and their listeners would have otherwise expected - only a few among the Japanese can attest to listening to those, with the most famous among them being the Japanese diplomat to France.
That said - there are the Dutch merchants in Japanese courts; I doubt that they would have brought dedicated musicians and instruments along with them.
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Would be kind of funny if European nobility develops a chonmage fetish in place of powdered wigs.
yeah that makes sense, but frankly orchestras could be played outdoors so building the correct type of building for it isn't that important.
and I was thinking of more general trends that would stretch into the future as orchestral music theory would spread into Japan. I do think the Japanese would attempt to emulate it with their own instruments bc of it.
Yeah pretty much at least at this point.
Food for thought for 18th century Japanese military combat.
Down the line but that would be more of an 18th century deal, maybe a bit towards the end of the 17th centry.
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Yeah, but do the samurai class still have the right to kill commoners that transgressed them?
Longswords have been mostly phased out from European warfare by the 17th century, with the Swiss sabre and rapier mostly having replaced the longsword in Europe. Maybe we would see Oda and the first few Daijo-Dajins encountering them but by the 1600s they have been mostly phased out. If anything maybe we'd see small sword/rapier/sabre/spadroon techniques be something the Japanese are in contact with.
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You are correct in that, especially in the context of how Japanese infantry formations are convergent counterparts to the Swedish Caroleans to some extent in the latter half of the 17th century ITTL. I just saw how the longsword was wielded and felts its appropriateness in terms of motions, jabs, and length.
Yeah that makes sense, seeing a katana-wielding guy use a longsword is very cool. I'd pay money to see a good HEMA practitioner fight a good kendo/iaido practitioner go at it.
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