And I guess the more libertarian/conservative punk rock musicians/bands like FEAR,Agonstic Front,Misfits,The Damned and even the Ramones are more opened about their views.
America's Funniest President: Mo Udall Presidency & Beyond
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Yup, most likely. There is a greater shift though as for libretarian... that's another thing that will be addressed down the line, around probably the mid 1990s or so.
Spring 1987- Unexpected Developments
Spring 1987- Unexpected Development
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With the arrival of Spring, there would come further changes and developments. The 1980s were in full-swing and Congress was in session. Unsurprisingly, both the Fair District Representation Act and the Fair Reapportion Act would be passed. As such, many became quite excited for the next round of elections as the various districts would be redrawn to be fair while also more House Rep positions would be created to accomodate the growing population. Combine that with the inevitable 1990 census and many saw it as the groundwork for a more modern America in political representation. In the meanwhile, other developments were being put into place. Talks of increasing the minimum wage were brought back to help further maintain the economic growth. Additionally, thanks to the success of the Affordable Medical Study Tuition Program in helping to get more students into the field of medicine without the concern of student loans or financial burdens, expansion to that and the creation of other potential programs were being considered. Law students have been working for such a thing and talks with Congress have been in development though the details remain sparse. One consistent talking point among that was the need for more public defenders.
Structural diagram of zidovudine also known as azidothymidine (AZT)
This was not the only developments going on right now in the world. The drug AZT would be approved by the United States Food and Drug Administration for use in the treatment of HIV/AIDS [1]. As research continues on with the troublesome virus, though many hope that with the AMST Program, that more people will be going into virology to further understand and study it in order to beat it. Meanwhile, Micheal Eisner and the Disney company have been looking further into a “Euro Disney” project though they have been delayed by detail negotiations and other phenomenon, such as deciding locations along with expenses and the differing cultures. Prime Minister Roy Hattersley would conduct an hour long interview over on Soviet television, doing so as a way to show himself in the public eye and gather more interest along with analyzing the diplomatics situation.
Other fascinating bits would be the return of Macau over to the PROC by 1999 as an agreement between them and Portugal. [1] Meanwhile, MetroFox Media would end up previewing one of their first future bits on MetroFox; over in the new Tracy Ullman show, a sketch comedy show that would become known for introducing the animated shorts for what would become the The Simpsons. The first Starbucks outside of the United States would open over in Canada and speaking of Canada, Prime Minister Mulroney and the Provincial Premiers continue to try and hammer out the principles on the Meech Lake Accord which would bring Quebec into the constitution, though execution issues caused to start lagging, especially with Mulroney only having a minority government. Overall, the world kept changing and as it did, people adapted and prepared for it. The Afghan-Pakistani War was already having the US and USSR into further talks as the war continued, with the topics being on potential intervention, the logistics surrounding it and the preparation for taking in refugees over from the war. However, while there was war… there was also the hope for peace.
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[1]- Information and phrasing taken from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987
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“MR. PRESIDENT! MR. PRESIDENT! SIR, IT’S ABOUT ISRAEL!”
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1987: The Peres-Hussein Solution
1987: The Peres-Hussein Solution
One of the longest problems that had been had been haunting Israel was how to deal with the situation of Palestine, born from the broken promises of the British and the historical uncertainty of what to do now. Lack of compromise and bitterness contributed this troublesome situation. This has been the case throughout the decades, especially with the various wars and conflicts. However. As the dust settled down and people tired of war, there was the hope for peace and that someday, all of this could be resolved without bloodshed. And that hope began manifesting over in 1984 with the election of Shimon Peres of the Alignment Party. The Alignment Party had been edging out the Likud more and more since the late 1970s, especially with the growing resolutions toward peace with Iran and the general need of a solution without overreliance on the Americans. As such, this growing global wave of progressive politics even began influencing Israel. With achieving a coalition with Hadesh, Ratz and Shinui, Peres could begin implementing his ideas in full. One of which was the option for resolving the issues with Palestine: The Jordanian Option.
And the agreement for the conference would be established in early April between King Hussein of Jordan and Shimon Peres. Also present in the meeting were Jordanian Prime Minister Zaid al-Rifai and Director General of the Israeli Foreign Affairs Ministry, Yossi Beilin [1].
The Agreement that began the conference, hosted by the United Nations, outlined the purpose of the conference to be "the peaceful solution of the Arab–Israeli conflictbased on resolutions 242 and 338 and a peaceful solution of the Palestinian problem in all its aspects." The agreement also stipulated that the conference would not impose a solution on the parties, and that the Palestinians would be represented by the Jordanian delegation. Additionally, the requirements were that all parties accept UNSC Resolutions 242 and 338 as well as renounce violence and terrorism, which both sides would accept. This would also have the side effect of excluding PLO participation [1]. The plan would be later submitted to US Secretary of State Jimmy Carter for American support. After plenty of good natured talks and cordial discussion, they finalized on most of the major issues.
Most of the West Bank would be under Jordanian sovereignty with the exception of Hebron and Jerusalem. Hebron would be annexed by Israel, with the people there being offered Jordanian citizenship to leave or figure out matters with Israel while Jerusalem would scheduled for a later conference due to time constraints and a request for further time on a solution for there. This along with other matters such as Gaza remained to be discussed, but for now, a major milestone has been achieved along with the ongoing plans.
Unsurprisingly, there was quite a mix of reactions here. Many nations around the world were pretty elated at the positive progress being made, with congratulations coming over from President Udall and Vice President Askew of the United States and even Gorbachev of the Soviet Union professed optimism at the situation. Even most nations in the Middle East expressed a form of relief, including Iran. Even Saudi Arabia have their tepid approval of the matters. Unsurprisingly the PLO were quite shocked and rather devastated by what happened. Some saw it as a betrayal while others fell into outrage and increased the infighting within the group, with tensions growing higher, likely to result in violence potentially spilling out
Meanwhile, the population of most of the West Bank would feel a sense of wariness yet relief in finally being able to live their lives in peace while the people in Hebron were left dealing with the complicated situation they were in though Israel, Jordan and the UN were lending aid on that front.
The people of Gaza meanwhile felt more a sense of resignation. It seemed like the end of the an independent Palestine and for many, the answers of what to do remained in the wind. One answer came in the form of the United States, who under humanitarian aims, agrees to take on a number of people of the West Bank or Gaza over the years to immigrate to the United States, with a few other nations like Canada being influenced to follow suit regarding these arrangements. Another answer was trying to appeal to Israel for some form of autonomy on the matter, especially as the leadership struggle has worsened. Jordan meanwhile was abuzz with dealing with the sudden expansion though outside assistance from the UN would help ensure the process being done smoothly and helped increase Jordanian prestige in the world. Peres would unsurprisingly catch a lot of flak for this in Israel from his opponents, but at the same time, they still got Hebron and there was now a greater chance for peace along with cooperation, namely in dealing with the violent individuals who would contest the deal made between the two nations. Indeed, preparations were being made to increase security around the parts along with that for the next meeting, which would occur within the next few years.
And all the while, as people were filling out paperwork and preparing for this grand transition either by getting used to being Jordanians, preparing discussions with the Israeli government or taking the American route to immigrate under a form of “special circumstance”. There was a sense of relief among most people and also a sense of hope. Not everything was resolved, but it was certainly a massive step forward in doing so.
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[1]- Phrasing and information coming from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peres–Hussein_London_Agreement
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For the time being, cordial though there is incredible wariness because of the Afghan-Pakistani War. India is at least keep in their word on no nuclear weapons.
Reagan is probably in retirement and trying to keep things quiet. Besides his presidential library, not much else. While he would want to have an active post-presidency, he’s probably kept his distance from party affairs due to the unpopularity of his tenure.
This also probably has an influence on him as well, but I don’t know what.
Vice President Reubin Askew will probably win the primaries (kind of similar to George H. W. Bush in our timeline's 1988 Republican primaries) and from what I've read about him he would be the perfect candidate practically untouchable from any type of slur or scandal and would promise to continue President Mo Udall's policies. He would probably win the 1988 election in a landslide over George H. W. Bush (was he Secretary of State during President Ronald Reagan's administration from 1977 to 1981 or did he stay on as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency?), House Minority Leader John B. Anderson, or Senate Minority Leader Bob Dole (I don't recall reading him ever losing re-election in this timeline but he only ever faced a relatively close race for re-election in 1974 in our timeline but that was well before this timeline's point of divergence/departure unless Udall's popularity and the unpopularity of the Republicans somehow caused Dole to lose re-election in either 1980 or 1986 in this timeline)
Trying to see into the future, aren’t we?
Yeah, George HW Bush was Director of CIA during time with Reagan. I do imagine that he was pretty cooperative in helping the Udall administration in ending Condor as a consultant.
Thank you! Glad you are enjoying yourself and feel free to spread the word.@CountDVB - just got caught up on this one. Really enjoying it
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It's just sort of unlikely that both the Palestinians, Jordanians, and the Arab world would like it. Especially the populations of nations of the Arab world, who disagree with their leaders and who are pro-Palestinian. Additionally, it is sort of idealistic that Israel would just agree to hand over the West Bank to Jordan. The Allon Plan of 1967 was increased settlement, better vantage areas for military outposts/defences and security areas. Settler number in the hundreds of thousands, a tall order compared to the number of settlers in Gaza and the Sinai Peninsula. Israel just gave up their geopolitical and military advantage, which is sort of unrealistic.
Mind you, this was a real-life agreement proposed OTL that didn’t get through because of the Likud PM of the time.
So kinda hard to call it unrealistic there XP
Signed by the King of Jordan and one of the rotating PMs of Israel, who in OTL, was in power earlier and couldn’t get it through because of his Likud counterpart.
Plus, Israel doesn’t have as much US backing; while the Udall Administration maintains helping Israel defensively, doesn’t meant they’re gonna be okay with everythin
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Ah, I see. Well, I checked back the statistics of the number of the settlers in the West Bank, and it was 50-60k. But Jerusalem numbers 100,000. So Jerusalem is a complicated matter.
Yeah, so I figured here, where he would have a good shot of being PM enough to implement this in front of the UN and everything. It wouldn't be a perfect solution and not everyone would be happy, but it'd be a major step to put things behind them.
Also, I am curious where you got the statistics for it. And yeah, Jerusalem has alot more people, hence why they needed to save it for a different talk. It's also likely we'll see the Christian world get their influence on the matter as well as the logistics. Got a couple ideas for it admittingly.
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From Israeli statistics, reported by their government.
Source of the graph, from this Wikipedia page:
en.wikipedia.org
Source of the graph, from this Wikipedia page:
Israeli settlement timeline - Wikipedia
Fascinating though I got a bigger number through here: https://web.archive.org/web/20150505181355/http://www.jiis.org/.upload/facts-2012-eng.pdfFrom Israeli statistics, reported by their government.
Source of the graph, from this Wikipedia page:
Israeli settlement timeline - Wikipedia
Though Jerusalem was always gonna be complicated.
Unsurprisingly it is gonna be a rather messy affair, but simmer down the line. Because it does come down to the people of West Bank; you're not being forced out, but you're becoming part of a nation state rather than the one started. Not the ideal situation, but not the worst one or much of a bad one.
West Bank will be incorporated like this I imagine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan#Administrative_divisions
Be called the "Western Region" and be divided into 4 different muhafazahs to fit in with the others.
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