TLTIMD: For Want Of A Hat

For Want Of A Hat



The day was hot thought Lillian Cross, as she watched the speech, maybe she would take off her hat, for her head was itchy, as she was thinking she barely noticed a short Italian man standing up behind her. Finally she decided to take off her hat [1] and when she was about to scratch her head, she heard five loud gunshots from behind her. She saw it was the Italian man and attacked him with her handbag as men around her tackled him to the ground. It was not enough though as she peered over her shoulder as in horror she saw the corpse of the man giving the speech. The speaker, President Elect Franklin Delano Roosevelt was dead.

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[1] POD
 
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What the heck is a TLTIMD?
It's a Timeline That I May Do, as I am not completely sure I am going to do this

This concept sounds familiar.
I actualy have a very different idea of what to do with this

What do you have in mind?
You will see

Not even a hint?
Let's say it will be a LONG struggle, if you get my drift

No I don't
In time.....


Anyway my last timeline I have been expirencing a bit of writers block so taking inspiration from Falcon Cannot Hear I have utilized a simmilar POD but I will have very differnt results.

Comments would be nice
 
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So with Giuseppe Zangara assasinating Roosevelt in 1933, John Nance Garner is sworn in as president three weeks later, who does he have as Vice President?
 
So with Giuseppe Zangara assasinating Roosevelt in 1933, John Nance Garner is sworn in as president three weeks later, who does he have as Vice President?

I'm not planning on adding details until a certain point in 1936.......
 
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By the way anyone who wants help me out by giving some books or links about some of the politics of this era, I would appreciate their help. And if they would like I could pm them my outline if they want to provide constructive criticism.
 
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By the way anyone who wants help me out by giving some books or links about some of the politics of this era, I would appreciate their help. And if they would like I could pm them my outline if they want to provide constructive criticism.

Any takers ?
 
I'm not planning on adding details until a certain point in 1936.......
But It'll probably be, in my opinion Harry Woodring
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Hines_Woodring

there wouldn't be a vice president, if Roosevelt were assassinated in Feb 1933, the President and Vice President had already been elected by the electoral college in December 1932. As such, there would be no Vice President, the office would be vacant until 1937.
 
there wouldn't be a vice president, if Roosevelt were assassinated in Feb 1933, the President and Vice President had already been elected by the electoral college in December 1932. As such, there would be no Vice President, the office would be vacant until 1937.

fixed sorry about that :eek:
 
(The previous wiki box is invalid and no longer cannon)

"With the death of President-Elect Franklin Roosevelt, the die has been cast, and the fate of America now lies in the balance, the darkness of totalitarianism and the light of freedom."
-Unknown Observer, 1933

"The failure of Garner was the catalyst for the destruction that the negligent republican and fake democrat rule that devastated our nation, and paved the path for our greatest president."
-President Henry M. Jackson, 1969

"The time has come for all good men to rise above principle."
-Huey Long

THE FIRST DOMINO HAS TIPPED
 
The Presidency Of John Nance Garner

1933-1937

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John N Garner went into office with a feeling of dread of what might come next. The luck that catapulted him into the Oval Office would soon end as abruptly as it began. His halfhearted economic measures did nothing to combat the depression, and the masses of poor and hungry only grew. With the Democrat and Republican parties discredited, a flurry of different parties were swept into congress in the midterms (though the Republicans gained a majority back.) The Farmer-Labor Party, The Socialist Party, The Union Party and even the Communist Party gained seats. Garnertowns popped up as the president became even more disliked. As the general election approached, no one challenged Garner for the Democratic nomination, as a sacrificial lamb was what few wanted to be. Frank Knox was nominated for the Republicans with Alf Landon as his running mate. Garner remained wholly optimistic but the inevitable occurred.

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Frank Knox/Alf Landon (R)- 418 Electoral Votes (49.21%)
John Nance Garner/Harry Woodring (D) - 154 Electoral Votes (36.55%)
Ernest Lundeen/John Wirds (FL) - 15 Electoral Votes (3.86%)
Norman Thomas/George A Nelson (S) - 12 Electoral Votes (7.91%)
Gerald K. Smith/William Lemke (U) - 0 Electoral Votes (2.46%)
Earl Browder/James Ford (C) - 0 Electoral Votes (1.07%)

The first time in quite a while where six different parties got over one percent of the vote, and worryingly the Communist Party as well. The rather fascistic run of Gerald K. Smith also inspired fear into the remaining moderates (now firmly behind Alf Landon.) The Socialist party also got its best run yet with winning a state and nearly seven percent of the vote. The Farmer-Labor Party won two states plus representatives in Iowa and the Dakotas. The Democrats were almost yeat again locked out except the South. It seemed as though more moderate polices might come to fruition under Knox as Garner's term faded.
 
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well i am reading Long's book and i am wondering if someone can help me substitute FDR and Hoover in his cabinet since its obvious that they are bad choices (FDR is dead and Hoover is the most unpopular president ever then)
 
The Presidency Of Frank Knox

1937-1941


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Frank Knox was elected by a sense that maybe the Republicans could heal the nation. The various small parties certainly didn't help Garner's chances and the worsening world events like the ascension of the Nazis and the growing popularity of fascism, an event not impermeable to America. The Union Party, led by virulent radio preacher Father Charles Coughlin captured two percent of the vote in 1936 and won a representative from North Dakota. Coupled with the grassroots movement for the Communist Party led by Earl Browder, many Americans hoped that a path of moderation could be cut with Knox. They were not proven wholly correct. The Knox Administration did to its credit enact some legislation, but all around was manly controlled by the conservatives that had controlled the party for a time by now. Now the Depression began to plateau, but this mattered none to the poor, homeless and hungry that remained ever present. Knox's popularity fell as quickly as it appeared and Landon openly disagreed with polices with him. By the midterms people had lost faith in the two party system, 32 representatives, 9 senators, and 4 governors were of a party not Democratic or Republican. Many became openly saying that Norman Thomas should become the next president, not just the fringes. Then, from the radios and streets, came a voice of power. A voice that advocated that Americans ought to stop bowing to conservatives and extremists. The voice of Senator Huey P Long. Long had spent the last few years slowly built up a network and cooperative politicians, like Burton K. Wheeler, William Borah and others. There was a wild furry of support for Long, as the people were riled up. The election soon inched on and war devoured Europe, (although Japan remained quiet as it had for the last few years[1]), all parties were making a stance with the Republicans and isolationist democrats saying that it was Europe's war and the hawk Democrats, Socialists and Union Partiests demanding intervention(The Union Party never said which side though...). The Republicans renominated Knox and Landon while the Socialists renominated the popular Thomas, The Union Party Father Coughlin and the Communist Party Earl Browder. The Democrats were sharply divided between Long and Al Smith, but after lengthy demonstrations and rallies, the delegates gave up and nominated Huey Long. The Farmer Laborers did not run a candidate, (Rumors were that Long promised them political power in return for not fielding a candidate.) The election soon became less Long versus Knox and more Long versus Thomas. The two left wing populists faced off with the Union Party supporters screaming in third place. In the end, the fate of the nation, was sealed...

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[1] Due to butterflies the Japanese do not invade China in 1937, this will prove pivotal later on.
 
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Huey Long/Burton K. Wheeler (D) - 251 Electoral Votes (54.39%)
Norman Thomas/Jasper McLevey (S) - 131 Electoral Votes (21.53%)
Frank Knox/Alf Landon (R) - 102 Electoral Votes (17.17%)
Charles Coughlin/Francis Townsend (U) - 7 Electoral Votes (5.90%)
Earl Browder/James Ford (C) - 0 Electoral Votes (2.01%)
"The last piece falls into place."
 
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